243 | Investing in Life Essentials Through Philanthroinvesting with Ivan Anz
Our guest this week on the pod is Ivan Anz. Ivan is the Founder of Philanthroinvestors, a community of investors who invest money and time, engaging emotionally to promote human welfare while earning a financial return.
Resources mentioned in this episode include:
Interview with Ivan Anz on Philanthroinvesting for Positive Impact
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SPEAKERS
Ivan Anz, Paul Zelizer
Paul Zelizer 00:02
Hi, this is Paul Zelizer, and welcome to another episode of the Awarepreneurs podcast. This podcast is all about the intersection of three things, conscious business, social impact, and awareness practice. Each episode, deep dive interview with a thought leader in this intersection, someone who has market tested experience, and is already transforming money. Before I introduce our topic, and our guest today, I have one request. If you could go over to Apple podcasts or whatever app you're listening to this show on, hit the subscribe button and do a review. It helps tremendously. Thanks so much for considering. Today, I'm thrilled to introduce you to Ivan Anz. And our topic is Investing in Life Essentials Through Philantroinvesting. Ivan is the founder of Philanthroinvestors, a community of investors who invest money and time engaging emotionally to promote human welfare while earning a financial return. Ivan, welcome to the show.
Ivan Anz 01:05
Thank you, Paul, I am so happy to be with you today. I'm thrilled to introduce our audience to your work and to have you share some of the amazing things you're doing and what you've learned while doing it.
Paul Zelizer 01:16
So of course, before we get into all that Ivan, we're called Awarepreneurs. And one of the ways we like to get to know somebody is to ask you about a wellness or resiliency practice that you personally use to resource yourself for this important work.
Ivan Anz 01:34
Of course, I lagged in order to keep my well being exactly right. I like to work every morning in nature, which I have the possibility in my backyard. And then also I like to dance with my, with my wife, so than say, like, go to dancing classes and so on. And, and then I like to spend times with with friends and I like to spend time in nature. That's that's what I what I like. And then I like to keep a natural, organic, the most macrobiotic possible diet that I can.
Paul Zelizer 02:27
Thanks for sharing those with us. You're welcome. So before we get into this whole concept that you've developed around philanthroinvesting and what it is, and what it looks like, and all the great things you're doing, give our listeners if somebody didn't know Ivan, and they didn't really have a sense of what you did before all this work, what would be you know, some of the highlights of your backstory to help somebody understand the experiences and the skills that you bring to the work that you're doing now? Maybe his past jobs or where you grew up is certainly a very significant part of your story, what would be some of those highlights?
Ivan Anz 03:04
Well, some of those highlights it will be that in 2009 I was looking for a way to grow my capital but outside the speculative investment world and I was looking for a way to not only invest but invest with the purpose and in that year is when God sent me like a revelation with this word philanthroinvesting. And I asked him what what is it? What is it that you're trying to communicate to me and he tells me, I want in the future people will not throw money away or put money or things that are just growing money for money because growing money for money is not happiness.
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And when we were going into
Ivan Anz 04:12
that into that direction, at a time i i continue you know, okay, but show me more and and as he starts showing me that I needed to do something for the humanity that was different than just making money for money. And the approximately I will say in 2009 July, I was one day in my car. And I was showing a private neighborhood that I was developing to a family that a time right. And then I am showing this lot and the guy name and the rest tells me Hye won, but I cannot buy this lot is the $50,000 lot. And the kids in the back start saying, Daddy, Daddy, Daddy, we want to live here. We want to live here. And it crushed my heart. And I didn't have a solution what how to help this family?
Ivan Anz 05:22
And Andrew, as you know, comes out of the car, and I say, Hey, can you give me help? And he says, No, I cannot because I live paycheck to paycheck. And I say, Hey, can you the, you know, get a loan from the bank? And then he says, No, because I miss a car payment. And then he
Ivan Anz 05:49
as he goes through that, I say, hey, Andrew, okay, so I don't know what to what to tell you about, you know, I will maybe figure out something less you also think about it. And then what happened is that, that night, I am taking the shower, and God gives me the solution, which was really becoming a freelancer investor, without family. And giving them the opportunity to own that a lot. So they can build their house as a family, and then I call them this next morning. And I say, unless I have an idea, how much can you pay per month? And he says, Why just tell me? And he says, Well, 250 300 a month. And at that time, I say, well, undress the Lord is yours. And when I hear the family, and he says, you know, just jumping off, you know, the floor, I hear everything in the in the other line and the other side of the line, and he's telling his kids and his wife, and everybody's so happy and so on. And when I listened to that, he was like, life changing for me? And I'd say, Well, this is what I need to do, like I need to dedicate myself to help families accomplish what otherwise they cannot. And people in general, right. And, and that was the beginning. That was my first philanthropy investment. And that was in 2009. That was 2009. In Argentina, yes.
Paul Zelizer 07:34
In Argentina. So I got chills, as you told that story I've been. So thank you for telling it. I imagine listeners, you were touched as well. So so this, it was sort of an organic thing you didn't like have a giant business plan? Like no, no, you're just like, this family needs my help. And I'm going to help them and it felt so good. And you wanted to do more of it. So like walk us forward, like what started to happen.
Ivan Anz 08:02
And then at that time, my wife Bella comes to me and says, Ivan, this idea philanthroinvesting and so on, is something that we need to export to the US we need to we need to take it to the US. Because everything that happens in the US the world will copy. And this is a great viewpoint, this is a great concept for you to take to the US. And I say, but better Listen, everyone in the US. I mean, that was my viewpoint. When I was living in Argentina, everybody in the US owns the home. Everybody in the US automatically, you know is there is a country of American Dream. They own the car, they own their house, they take the children's to the best schools they have vacations is the country of the American dream like this will not work there. And then she says, You know what, you know, let's explore more Ivan. And then in 2010, I started traveling to the US and I go to real estate trainings, I start researching, I discover that Bella was right, that the US is a country that 51% of Americans do not qualify for a traditional mortgage. And also I discovered that 50,000 families lose their home every single month. And when I discover the numbers, I say oh my gosh, well, I was right. And I start learning and creating on how to you know to establish a company in the US. But they say this time in the US there is also another problem which is that 50,000 homes that are in the bank's books that the banks do not have the capacity to manage. And it's a problem for them. And it's a problem for the municipalities because nobody's paying the property taxes. And there is the homes that abandon and there is criminality going around more abandoned neighborhoods, and so on. So I say I need to solve it in another way. I need to be able to help the banks help the municipalities get this homes out of the list, and then find families that will come into our homes for less than rent. And I found that my company that is connected with housing, philanthropy, investing, and the name of the company's equity and help. And I founded in in, in Florida, in 2000. And I started my research in 2012, I founded the company in 2014. And when I found that the company there, the first thing I do was, I hire the CEO. Because one of my problems, Paul is that I arrived to the US without speaking almost a word in English like I was when I went to that seminars in 2000, and real estate seminars and so on in 2010, and 11. And 12. I was hiring a translator to be with me in the seminars. And by when I hired the when I launched the company say, well, I need to hire a CEO that is American that understand the law here that understand, you know, the culture, and all of that. And so that's that's what I do. And that's, that's how I launch housing Freelander invested in the US official in 2014. So almost eight years ago.
Paul Zelizer 11:46
And give us a sense are now eight years in and you've taken this idea and other domains, and we're going to get there in just a second. But like, what does it look like now? Like how many families are you helping? Do you ever see some people that can't keep up with their payments? Like, like, what is it? Yeah, what's on the ground? Right here? Right? Are you still only in Florida? Are you in other states? Well,
Ivan Anz 12:12
the company in 2018 logs. So four years after we launched, in made it to the inc 500, we made it to the position number 83 of the fastest growing companies in the US. We made it to the position number five of the fastest growing companies in real estate industry in the entire country. We made it to position number two in the fastest growing companies in Florida and number one of the fastest growing companies in Tampa Bay. And so the company is helping now a little bit more than 600 families in 32 states. And this is the cool thing about it. Because remember that I wanted to get something that I can invest by to get free of the speculative investment world. And when I read that poll, when I launched the company say, oh my gosh, I need to connect investors from different parts of the world, to support families in the US to be able to own their home. So that's how we launch the housing phyllanthus investing program for investors to become their CEO have their own portfolio and be in the driver's seat and make the key material decisions on what houses to buy, where to buy them. After we purchased them from the banks, of course we show it to them in our inventory. And then let us find the families for the houses that they will help. And now the Philander investor itself becomes a philanthropy lender, right. And he is helping this family with the long term loan of of 20 years and then the family's having a monthly payment of around five. So then the philanthropy investor, the philanthropy investor is going to decide basically on that point, we find these families right and he's financing the family as a philanthropy lender. And he then becomes a he's in the driver's seat again. With in relation with that, if the family for example, cannot cannot catch up with their payments and so on. Because they had a life situation they had a baby or something. Then he can decide how much he can help. He wants to help this family. Though he wants to send the monthly payments that are all the violence that he still he wants to send To the end of the loan, he wants to increase the monthly payment a little bit and put the family score and he wants to the full five philanthropy and he wants to give these payments to the families, what he wants to do. And the cool thing about it is that the families are living in their own homes for less than ran they are whatever his family pays $570 a month, including principal and interest, plus tax and insurance, which are another handle box a month. But the point here, Paul, is that the Philander investor is engaged emotionally with his philanthropy investment, and being the CEO of his own portfolio, make it so that he really don't only he goes towards a path of true financial freedom, he don't receive just cash flow and capital growth. He also receives fulfillment because he's engaged emotionally and he's creating that effect with that families.
Paul Zelizer 16:03
And really changing their lives. We know from the research, that Owning a home is one of the biggest things that can build wealth through the generations for families. So it's not just, you know, your own place to live that you don't have to ask permission to paint the walls or whatever, but really can change the course of a family's trajectory and what the options the next generations have for the rest of that time of that family being in existence. That's a huge, huge thing.
Ivan Anz 16:36
Exactly, exactly. And, and the main. The other point, which is very nice is that the Freelancer investor is making between eight to 12% return on his portfolio, that's that's the average of the portfolio Well, we have phyllanthus investors making seven we have phyllanthus investors making nine we have phyllanthus investors making 11 and philanthropists are making 13. Because he just how much engagement he has, and how well he's, you know, willing to meet once a month with our phyllanthus investor consultant to review his portfolio, make the key material decisions and tell our Philander investor consultant why why he wants to, to actually, you know, do with this family or what he wants to do the next month. And with EX family or ex home situation, right?
Paul Zelizer 17:31
So he built it or these past eight years or so 600 families 32 states, like how many investors do you have? I have a
Ivan Anz 17:42
right now we have around 40, I think it's 47 million of the total assets that we recover from the bank. And this is a three distribute from in phyllanthus investors from 14 countries in the world. And they I will say the we have over 100 investors. So the average assets recover from the bank for each phyllanthus investors around 500,000.
Paul Zelizer 18:09
This is all work pretty well to the point you said, Well, you know what, we're not just going to do this in the housing space, we're gonna bring this model of philanthropy investing to some other places that humans could use some help tell us about where it's grown to.
Ivan Anz 18:27
Okay, so what he said, this is very true, because let me tell you that in 2019, I have another god revelation is another revelation. And I was taking a shower. And he sends me this message, says Ivan,
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I didn't
Ivan Anz 18:52
I didn't send you the phyllanthus investor concept and viewpoint just to help families live in their own homes. The reason I send you that is because I wanted you to start observing, raising your conscious level for the humanity and instead of serving different areas of the planet, the next two we fix. So you start Okay, I got the message night next day in the morning I go and I start researching. And I find that 6000 kids die from water related diseases every single day. I start researching more and I find out that 80% of the water is released untreated. I start researching more. And I find out that only 1% of the water is recycled in the US and the infrastructure not only in the US but in the world is crumbling, the water the water infrastructure. So started researching for different companies that kind of helped me fix that situation in the planet, the water situation in the planet. And then, by my research, I discover that one of the problems that the problem the love humanity has is that do not have a way to put people in trust with the water again, and what I mean interest if you have, for example, you everyday like I don't know if you know, Paul, but we drink around 5151 liters of water, you know, withering sorry, 51 liters of water is what we use in our per human being in the planet. That's the average. And if you look at it, water is given us 51 liters, and we take it. And we thanks to that we create everything that we want to create, we live so we live our lives and so on. But then how we treat water back? Do we clean 51.1 liters of water every day? So we are in like a stress of water is trusting us. Right? Or we're trusting water? What how that relation is? What is the trust between how we pay back the trust or the water is given to us? What are we doing for the water every day as water is doing for us. So I realized that what we were missing in the planet was
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a vehicle some
Ivan Anz 21:57
some vehicle that allows the humanity to be back to allow water to trust us again because it's not only that, we are not cleaning 51 liters plus of water each of us every day and improving that quantity of water but we are also going to the bathroom and just thrashing paper to the water and thrashing other things to the water and we are not not treating water as water treat us. So I start researching on this and researching I discovered this company are using clear. And that was the beginning of 2020. So it's almost two years now. And then we went into a joint venture and and I became one of the major shareholders of the company. And what happened was that
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at that time,
Ivan Anz 22:57
I decided okay, I think this company is in the direction of creating that resource. So raising clear is a water phyllanthus investing company that is established for many years. And they are working like they have the platform for any investor to give the resources meaning their time and their money to improve water quality in the world. And it has a blockchain technology it has it has a financial technology for like a FinTech viewpoint for water companies around the world. So you as an investor, can you invest in arranging clear you become a water phyllanthus investor, their offering is amazing. And they allow you to be back in trust with the water to evac in exchange to to give more to water of what you're taking from water every single day. And all of this information for this is all in under phyllanthus investors.com, which is your audience can discover more because it's much more deep of what I can tell you in this podcast.
Paul Zelizer 24:10
We'll put a link to all of the links that we're talking about the equity and help part of things the origin clear part of things, the general plan through investing, say all that listeners will be in the show notes. So awesome, it. Let's do this. Ivan, I want to take a quick break. When we come back. I want to hear more specifically about some of the other things that you're launching, you've got some very new exciting developments as if this isn't exciting enough, and where do you see the company going? But before we do that, I just want to take a quick break and hear a word from our sponsor. Do you have a business that's about making the world a better place and you want it to grow? Both in terms of helping more people and in terms of your income so you can have a good quality of life? If so, I'd like to talk to you about what's Science tells us actually contributes to humans reaching our goals. Whether it's in the wellness space, and you want to change what you're eating, or your fitness level, or in the realm of being an entrepreneur and reaching your business goals, single biggest predictor of whether we actually as humans reach our goals is what scientists call social support. In other words, a group of people who are on a similar journey, it can share both information, here's some tips, a little nuance that's going to help you get better results. And also the emotional support. This is huge for entrepreneurs, people who understand the ups and downs of being on an entrepreneurial journey. And just by definition, by starting something innovative, you're stepping out of the box, and there are more ups and downs. But we're printers has a really generous community of hundreds of social entrepreneurs from around the world. And this is what we do for each other. It's called the AWARE printers community. And it's affordable. It's a generous group of humans. And you can find out more at aware printers.com forward slash community. And thank you to everybody in the AWARE printers community who sponsors this podcast. So you got these two different domains, the housing one that's been up, if we go back to its origins, the origins or 13 years ago, the water philanthropy investing, that's been going for a couple of years really exciting there. And now you've got a couple of new things coming up that you're working on. Ivan, tell us about those.
Ivan Anz 26:40
Yes, of course, we have. Now launching pretty soon. I mean, it's already it's already launched this one, I will share first, his environment, philanthropy investing. And environmental and investing is very, very interesting, on the sense of getting in the helping the 8 million tonnes of littering that are going to the oceans. Helping that situation. Because one of the problem that exists and that happens is that if you ask handed people if they have later in the last five years, 75 will tell you yes. And so the problem that we have in the oceans is not the problem of the plastic itself as a as a type of material to carry our food and so on or beverages. The problem is the in the education of the people who is using the plastic, and not being conscious, or the cities and municipalities that are not yet to the level of having a recycling system working for the people to be able to use it. So because of that, I started searching for a company that has the technology to increase the education, the conscious level for the oceans and the forest. Because the ocean is giving us fishes, and it's given us oxygen is the number one source of oxygen in the planet is the ocean. And it's the number one source of course, the only source of or the number one I will say not the only one but the number one source of a fish, fish protein, and many other minerals. But how are we treating the oceans? You see I needed to create a platform where people can exchange back with the oceans for what we take. And environment phyllanthus investing was launched with our company's Z loop base in Dubai for two reasons. Number one, because is one of the more environmental conscious cities in the world. And one of the cleanest ones. And then secondly, because it's 0% tax, so we raise our team in Dubai, the company in Dubai and so on. And Zillow has a platform that was launched three months ago, approximately, we've been in the company been in development for two, three years. And what it does, it's you can go into the app store and download it right now. And you know, the absolutely the the Play Store in Android and so on. And see look, is there an easy platform for you as a user To help the environment with preventing plastic, going to the oceans and to the forest, and we'll reward you for that. How will we work because we have the only blockchain reward token that requires the no littering. Okay? So if you don't litter, and you do it through the loop and you do it with conscious and you help us expand and save the oceans, we reward you with our blockchain token, which is a coin that you can trade for Bitcoin or USD tater in the blockchain and convert that into cash or whatever you want. So the company has grown so fast that in the last quarter, and this one like combined, we made to almost 12,000 users across more than 150 countries. And these 12,000 users have already created themselves in 51 countries, they have created deposit points. So when you open an account in the app, we give you a certain amount of tokens as a welcome, then when you create a positive point, that is a recycle being the positive point will give you more talk. And then when you are in the weekends enjoying with the family, say, hey, you know, let's go to the beach, or let's go to a lake or let's go to the nature and collect some plastic and let's find the recycle bin and, and throw it into a zillo Recycle Bin. Even when you're traveling in vacation, we are rewarding you with these tokens. So this is the company and phyllanthus investors can become phyllanthus investors and that sense environment phyllanthus investors and they can support the company, they can become angel investors in this sense, and you know, invest in this in this startup, and just support it to grow and get all the benefits as angel investors get when the company grows and, and goes to NASDAQ and so on. It's a technology company. Right? So that's, that's so beautiful. And I I just love the elevation and the animation and so on. Right?
Paul Zelizer 32:29
One of the things are notice, Ivan is that each company that you're working with, whether it's the housing philanthropy investing, whether it's the water, the environment, they're each quite different. And and like you've nuanced what you're building based on what's needed for that particular outcome. You know, what I'm saying? Yes, does that make sense? Like, like, you didn't just like cookie cutter, oh, this worked in the housing space. So we're just gonna do the same thing, except now say it's for water like. So one of the things because most of our guests, they have like one domain, tomorrow, we're publishing an episode with the founder to he N Lee, who created a breast pump cushion to help make it more comfortable and more effective for women to to pump milk for their babies. And like that was a very specific need. And it was a very specific audience. And that's where they planted their flag. And they've stayed with that, but you're doing multiple things all with positive impact. And I wonder if you could speak with somebody from the perspective of somebody who's has multiple impact goals? Like, how do you sync up the positive change you want to see in the world with creating a viable company that actually moving the needle for that particular impact goal? Yes,
Ivan Anz 34:01
yes. And, and I tell you that what you see in the different companies is what I call innovative, so each company is innovative in its own industry. Yeah, and that's very bad. Right, right. And that they are not only different, but they are innovative. And that's one of the values that I look for when selecting our companies that that we onboard under the phyllanthus investors umbrella and so on. Right. So, yeah, I just tell you is, is so unique, and we just now for example, we are about to we are in the process to onboard the health or wellness phyllanthus investing company, which has, oh my gosh, an amazing technology. Two, they say and we're still in the religions, but they say that the region is disease free world. And one of our visions is philanthropy matters is a disease free world. So that I am so excited about that. And then we also are looking with few companies on the food philanthropy investing to eradicate the 1 billion tonnes of food that is being wasted every year and the 1 billion people that suffer from hunger every day. So that's, that's another vertical we're going and then we are reviewing also another company on education Freelancer investing to eradicate the 1 billion illiterates in the planet. So as you saved in the very end of the show, all of what we're trying to do is to take the investor out of the speculative investment world while we solve or shift solve, issues in the planet will shift the world into a more positive direction. And how, how do we do that? Is good do it in a way that we just do it in a way that very, very simple is something that I had as a revelation also a while ago was that the way to be out of a speculative investment world is to invest in things and in industries that the human beings need every single day. And doesn't matter what a course, in the planet, we will still made that things because they support life. And I call them Life Essentials. And that's why phyllanthus invest in is invest in Life Essentials. Because we want to improve life, we want to backup life, we want to support life and support the life and backing up life. And all of that is no more than supporting you, the one that is listening to have a better life. Because this is not something that is called the natural laws of betterman, which says that if your wife is in your wife, life is in a better condition, your life will be in a better condition. If your neighborhood is in a better condition, your life will be in a better condition. If Canada is in a better condition, as a country, the US will be in a better condition. If China is in a better condition, the US will be in a better condition. If Argentina is in a better condition as a country, Chile will be in a weather condition and the same with Australia will be in a better condition because that's the natural love better men like the natural law of gravity is the same. It's just a natural law, you cannot do anything about it. So if we really cater with resources, money and time, to focus our resources, instead of just throwing it away in the gambling industry, which is half a trillion dollars a year right now. Just take a little bit more of responsibility, and put that money towards Life Essentials starting by
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air, water, food,
Ivan Anz 37:57
housing, animals, education, art, because it's how we enjoy with family and community through art, and support the artists and wellness and all these different Life Essentials, then we have much more chances to succeed as a humanity. And that's the whole reason why phyllanthus investors exist as a company there is no other reason is to connect investors with humanitarian causes. And connect them through Life Essentials. So it becomes less or almost non speculative. Because it's the things that all of us needs. Every single day like even if we have a pandemic we need water we need air, we need food, we need housing. We need it we with you know education growers never before in the pandemic because people watch this okay, educating themselves even more art are grew even more because people was creating more art from their house. So all of these are life essentially. And not even a pandemic can shut down.
Paul Zelizer 39:12
One of my favorite books is Essentialism by Gregory McEwen. And when I saw you talking about Life Essentials, when your team pitched to me this episode, I saw you using the language of Life Essentials and and one of the things I really appreciate listeners about what Ivan and his teams are doing, is that very grounded focus on Life Essentials and sometimes people are pitching me things to be on the show. And it's less connected with what you're calling Life Essentials I have and it's one of the things I really respect about what you're doing. People needy people need to breathe, people need to drink water. You know, people need a roof over our heads and you're looking in those spaces and I I couldn't agree more about just like, being mindful of how we're choosing what domains that we're, you know, planting our flag and in terms of our impact goals, and is this something that really is an essential. And you know, in the book essentialism, he doesn't define what's essential for anybody else. But he's asked us to be very mindful, to put a lot of care into the question what really is essential to the purpose of my life. And if it's not essential, then he says, by definition, it's a non essential. And when I get pitched a lot of things, or I hear a conversation in the impact world, you know, some of them have that sense of feels really essential, it's making everyday people's lives or making the environment better in a very specific nuanced way. And sometimes I get pitched, and I'm like, I don't see it. So I just want to cosign what you're saying about being attentive to what are the Life Essentials, and seeing how you can make a difference there, and that's gonna, you know, prevent some of the struggles that I see social entrepreneurs, I want to make the world a better place, and I, you know, I so appreciate that. But sometimes, it's a little disconnected from what the average human, the everyday human spends their life in the ways they're looking to, you know, improve themselves and to make life better for their family. So I so appreciate that grounded care that you bring to which kinds of companies are investing.
Ivan Anz 41:39
Thank you, thank you for like, really appreciate your co signing, what I am talking and yes, and that's the whole viewpoint that I am trying to raise the conscious level of help in the investment world and in the humanity. And that's why I am launching my books pretty soon. One which is a business fable phenomenal, the awaken your philanthropy vessel within and then another one, which is housing, philanthropy, investing, growing your capital, while helping families own their homes, and then what phyllanthus invest in book is coming. And yeah, so right now all your your audience can go and preorder this books will be able to deliver housing phyllanthus investing the fastest one, because it's, it's 99% completed. And then the other ones are like 80, and 90%. So yeah, that's, that's a education is the way to get people to learn about these more deep, and then take action and engage emotionally because the fulfillment is just amazing. It takes your happiness level two, to another to another level. And all the information about the books will be on the plant or investing website, right phyllanthus investors.com, that it has a short link. So you need to type all the brand Pei dot today BI for phyllanthus investors is P ai dot today, it takes you straight, actually, to the podcast page, where we will upload this podcast also. And you can see all my podcasts about phyllanthus investing there. But you can go through the pages on the web and the website and you can see all the different, you know, the the books, the companies, everything is
Paul Zelizer 43:19
there. Awesome. And again, listeners, all that will be in the show notes. So even this is an exciting time to be in the world of impact investing, there's a lot I mean, a lot going on, like when you look ahead, both in the larger space of purpose Based Investing. But then even to bring it home a little bit when you look three or five years ahead with the thorough philanthropy investing movement. What are some of the things that are on your radar that you think are coming soon? Well,
Ivan Anz 43:54
what I think is, is coming soon is that we are going to take the possibility of helping families on their home not only in the US, but across the globe. My book is showing how to how this can be done in any anywhere in the world. And I see that they were going to be taking origin clear to NASDAQ and making it a worldwide moment in relation to water. I see also, vitamin phyllanthus investing through through the loop going beyond the stars because of the plans that we have. But then I see the whole vision in in 2030 I see the whole vision of phyllanthus investors which is a planet with pure air planet with pure water, a planet with where everybody can eat organic and clean food and a planet where every family owns that Home, and where the animals are being taken care of, and where the structures are natural disaster protected. So it's not they're not killing lives and, and a planet where we can see that there is a disease free world and illiterate world with no illiterates in the planet. And then a planet where every single space in the planet that needs electricity to function is creating its own energy. So we the need to have this wild structures going around, that are also sometimes killing lives because of electricity, mostly in third world countries, right. So that's what I see. And I see in 2030, that we will have a very strong grasp, and people will be able to say, Wow, this, this is rare like this can happen like the planet of our dreams can happen. And we are doing all of that and concentrated all of our energy on that, before we put more energy on going to Mars, right? Like we fix this planet. And they will say we celebrate. And then by the time Elan will have all the technology ready to go and create, you know, have another planet and grow and so on. But we learned so much so that we will not, you know, mess up the water again and mess up the air again. And, and we will do it in a way that you know will be really an ideal planet from day one and will never be messed up. Right. So that's that's kind of what I see.
Paul Zelizer 46:46
So I could hang on with you all day, you've done so much in such a relatively short amount of time. And you're busy man, our listeners are busy too. So I want to be respectful of your time in their time. Of course, somebody who has worked in so many different impact areas, if there was something you wanted to leave our listeners with. And again, all the links are in the show notes, listeners, go check out the website, buy the books tell people about Ivan and his team, please, let's get the message out there. So all that's in the show notes. If there is something you want to leave our listeners with other social entrepreneur, visionary founders, who want to have very significant impact in the areas where they're concerned, something you've learned something that would help them have some more impact, to live a better quality of life, and be able to live the purpose that they're on this planet to do, what would you leave them with?
Ivan Anz 47:49
I will say that find an area an industry that you really are passionate about a problem in the planet that you're passionate about solving, that you feel the need and you feel the energy and the willingness to do it. Create an organization, a company around that and create a goal that is so huge. And a dream that is an impersonal dream, not for you but for others and in personal dream that you can start working through a purpose that is so nice to wake up every morning and knowing that you're going to be helping that that area in the planet and you're making a difference and know that the biggest the purpose and the biggest goal and the biggest dream the virus will be bigger and treat that virus as a game treated organization and business as a game on the impact investing world because you are playing a huge game that has a huge purpose and the various will be huge also. So and just go to the very end heated and heated and heated and heated until you overcome it because you are more powerful than any barrier that is out there. If you are persistence on on being consistent and persistent on trying to overcome anything one point you will just overcome it and the value will just lay down you know in the it will fall under your your hands and you will just overcome and so that's what I would say and then and then just enjoy the journey while you are employed improving the world. Ivan, thanks so much for being on the show today and sharing your wisdom with us. You're welcome, sir.
Paul Zelizer 49:39
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